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Rotary / One Plane Swing Golf Instruction Forum http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum This is an XML content feed of; Rotary / One Plane Swing Golf Instruction Forum : Last 15 Posts OnePlaneGolfSwing.com Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:17:39 +0000 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:59:44 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 8.03 30 www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/RSS_topic_feed.asp Mental Side of Golf : The Tale of 2 nines http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6457&PID=55232#55232 Author: boca102
Subject: The Tale of 2 nines
Posted: 04 July 2009 at 2:59pm

Originally posted by mship

My 2 beans....Learn to focus and stay "in the moment". If you think about anything other than the upcoming shot then you are not doing this. You will see that as you practice this hitting bad shots will start to affect you less and less and you will recover a lot better.

Also don't know if you do but don't add up your score until your done. If you see that you shot 41 and you are now thinking that if you shoot this you will come in with this then again you are thinking about the future and not staying "in the moment".

All very good points. And guilty as charged on both accounts. I do dwell at times on bad shots and the fact that I know what the exact score I have bad shots do indeed have more of an effect on me. I think I read somewhere golf is 5% physical and 95% mental could not be more correct.
]]> Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:59:44 +0000 http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6457&PID=55232#55232 Mental Side of Golf : The Tale of 2 nines http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6457&PID=55231#55231 Author: mship
Subject: The Tale of 2 nines
Posted: 04 July 2009 at 2:29pm

My 2 beans....Learn to focus and stay "in the moment". If you think about anything other than the upcoming shot then you are not doing this. You will see that as you practice this hitting bad shots will start to affect you less and less and you will recover a lot better.

]]> Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:29:10 +0000 http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6457&PID=55231#55231 Mental Side of Golf : The Tale of 2 nines http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6457&PID=55230#55230 Author: boca102
Subject: The Tale of 2 nines
Posted: 04 July 2009 at 2:18pm

I don't know what it is. I can play the first nine really well. Perfect example I played Thursday shot a 41 on the front and limped in with a 56. It doesn't matter the course after 9 holes I have a mental break down. There is no other way to put it. I am not tired physically. I can play bogey golf on the front but I hit #10 and all hell breaks loose. It's like I get to teh 10th hole and forget how to play the game. Usually my middle irons and wedges go south. Putting has been saving me lately but when I stripe a drive down the center and put my approach out of bounds it gets to be difficult. And then it snowballs. How do I get out of a stumble once I am on that slippery slope?
]]> Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:18:10 +0000 http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6457&PID=55230#55230 Rotary Swing Tour : Shanks http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&PID=55229#55229 Author: Al Consoli
Subject: Shanks
Posted: 04 July 2009 at 1:36pm

ruff,

start by watching my video on common faults caused by setup and Chuck"s videos on the take away and the role of the right arm in the backswing. Focus on 1st half of take away 45* shoulder turn, 0* hip rotation. The arms should remain in front of your sternum ( yours are very deep) and the right elbow should be straight (yours is bent). So many moving parts cause spine angle to change throughout backswing and again in the transition. Those videos are good starting points
]]> Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:36:14 +0000 http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&PID=55229#55229 Rotary Swing Tour : Shanks http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&PID=55228#55228 Author: rufdiggity
Subject: Shanks
Posted: 04 July 2009 at 12:44pm

Thanks for the responses! After looking at my swing from behind, I didn't realize the hips were moving that much. I am so worried about the weight shift to the right side that I am moving the hips too much. It is really hard for me to engrain myself to not move the hips that much. I will have to watch the takeaway video again to see if I can get any tips from there.]]> Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:44:48 +0000 http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&PID=55228#55228 Rotary Swing Tour : Thanks CQ - RST Is Working http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6455&PID=55226#55226 Author: Chuck Quinton
Subject: Thanks CQ - RST Is Working
Posted: 04 July 2009 at 12:25pm

congrats man!]]> Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:25:17 +0000 http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6455&PID=55226#55226 Rotary Swing Tour : Shanks http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&PID=55225#55225 Author: rrweather
Subject: Shanks
Posted: 04 July 2009 at 8:45am

I've been struggling with the same thing throughout my online lessons. It got so bad that I managed to get a ball mark on the hosel 90 degrees from the clubface. Occasionally, I would make solid contact and pull the ball bad. This would get dramatically worse throughout the day.

I am by no means an instructor. What I will say is my left side was breaking down bad in my backswing. Yours appears to be breaking down as well. This would immediately cause my head to dip towards the ball, even though it felt like it was stationary. At some point in the backswing or downswing, I would have to stand up because my body realized it was too close to the ball due to the dip. Bad things would happen from there. You appear to stand up in your backswing. After my last video lesson Al gave me some drills to work on that deal entirely with setup and do not involve hitting balls. Doing these drills in the mirror make me realize how poor my setup was from the beginning. I am convinced (as Chuck, Al, and others have mentioned) if the setup is poor, it is going to be difficult hitting consistently. When I did strike the ball well, there was a great deal of luck that my body was able to overcome the setup errors and the timing happen to be right to make solid contact. When the luck ran out or the timing was off, bad things happened. I am not trying to push the online lessons but I am sold on them. I've had two and I was amazed at what Al could see in my swing. In fact, the things I thought I was doing the best were actually the things I needed to work on. It may take a lesson or two to fix some setup issues but that might be what you need to get back to making solid contact. The one thing I am realizing is there is a reason Chuck has talked so much about proper setup. We are all trying to achieve a rotary golf swing but if the setup is off, it will be hard or impossible to master. My guess is you would be surprised at how much an online lesson or two would help. Just my thoughts. Good luck. I sure as hell know how frustrated you are!]]> Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:45:49 +0000 http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&PID=55225#55225 Rotary Swing Tour : Shanks http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&PID=55224#55224 Author: rayvil01
Subject: Shanks
Posted: 04 July 2009 at 6:15am

Hey, ruff,
The setup looks ok. The problem starts right from the get-go at takeaway. You definitely need to check out Chuck's Takeaway vid. You're actually moving your hips to start the club back. I've got some pictures below:

Your hips are just popping open right from the start. The one on the right was two frames past the setup pic on the left. I put the box on to see how much of your left leg was showing at that point. What that does downstream is in the second pic:

Here you are the end of the takeaway or Move 1. Look at your hips and look at Chuck's. Look at how little of his left leg is showing. The Takeaway Vid is definitely a good place to start.

Good luck

]]> Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:15:52 +0000 http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&PID=55224#55224 Rotary Swing Tour : Shanks http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&PID=55223#55223 Author: rufdiggity
Subject: Shanks
Posted: 03 July 2009 at 8:06pm

Hi Chuck/Al -

I finally got my swing on video so I have no basis of a before and after of when I starting doing the RST a few weeks ago. I have had great periods and then now I am having a terrible period, which is why I videotaped my swing for some help. I was at the range and it started off good and then the shanks came and stayed. The ones I didn't shank I was hitting so close the hozel and the ball felt dead. Last week I felt like I was compressing the ball. Here is my swing as of today. What would you instruct me to do? I was doing half swings, but then those started to go bad too. If you can't open this up, it is located in the members swing section from the 0-10 handicap section, called Outside_022.avi. Thanks for the help!

http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/oneplanemembers/memberswings/0-10/Outside_022.AVI

]]> Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:06:18 +0000 http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6456&PID=55223#55223 Rotary Swing Tour : Thanks CQ - RST Is Working http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6455&PID=55221#55221 Author: orizonalpha
Subject: Thanks CQ - RST Is Working
Posted: 03 July 2009 at 5:24pm

Since attending the first RST clinic back in January, I have been working deligently on the RST fundamentals and it is starting to pay off. This has been the most consistent ballstriking summer ever for me. My last three rounds have all been in the 80s and today I shot 86 which is my lowest score ever.

Thanks Chuck and Allison!

]]> Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:24:44 +0000 http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6455&PID=55221#55221 One Plane Swing Theory and Help : Regressed http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6104&PID=55219#55219 Author: SoulHacka
Subject: Regressed
Posted: 03 July 2009 at 11:41am

Just another update

Had good progress up until about a week ago, and the dreaded S-word crept back into my swing again. The good news is that I was able to turn it around rather quickly. Since I've accepted the fact that this is one of my "misses" - rather then trying to cure this, my goal is to have a set of tools to use when it raises its head. The difference this time is that I dug in a little intellectually, versus just going to mechanics. i asked myself a few questions:

- Why does this creep in, and when it does, I can consistently shank a bucket of balls? (And the impact marks are in the same place on the club?)

- Why is it that with the different "cures" out there - my weight on heels, weight on toes, standing close, standing far away, open club face, closed club face, hit off one foot, hitting half shots, feet together, my mind still seems to "find" the hosel?

- Conversely, I have all of the same swing faults when I am hitting the ball good - since I cannot expect perfection out of my swing, what is going on that has convinced my mind that the hosel is the place to hit the ball?

- if imy mechanics are throwing me off plane, why dont I hit the hosel square, or the back of the hosel? I only seem to hit the spot right between the face and the hosel.

My conclusion is that at some point in my swing, I have substituted the hosel for the clubface as the "right place" to hit the ball...I am always going to hit the hosel unless I try to hit the ball with some other part of the club. (DUH) Let me explain.

When you hit the head of a nail with a hammer, you think about applying the hammer head to the nail head. Your hands sense where the nail is in relation to the head of the hammer, and you swing and hit - whether its a small swing with a handheld hammer, or a large swing with a sledge hammer. While you must also focus on the path of the hammer, and the technique, you must also have the fundamental mental goal of putting the head of the hammer onto the head of the nail.

Until then, all I was thinking about was weight shift, swing plane, passive arms, balance, etc. I realized that in combination with the aforementioned fundamentals, I needed to also think about putting the club head on the ball with a specific part of the club head.

As quickly as the bad shots came, they left, and I was able to finish my round under 90. I was looking for a cure in my mechanics, when the remedy was more about how I thought about hitting the ball...

Another thing I found - when I was conscious of the fact that i want to hit the ball with the clubhead - my swing naturally slowed itself down, I did not over swing, and I did not throw myself at the ball trying to hit it further. I now had a "hammer" mindset - still keeping all of the fundamentals, just now applying them with a more precise goal.

I hope this is not interpreted as instruction, as this is my personal journey in improving my game - so YMMV. This is also not intended to contradict any of the instruction that has been given here by professionals.

Since the information about curing the S-word is mysterious, maybe my experience can help someone if they run across this in a search...

Edited by SoulHacka - Yesterday at 11:45am]]> Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:41:29 +0000 http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6104&PID=55219#55219 Rotary Swing Tour : Random drill question... http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6453&PID=55218#55218 Author: BurtReynolds
Subject: Random drill question...
Posted: 03 July 2009 at 11:02am

Hello, first post here. I was interested to know if any of the drills from the DVD or original RS method are still relevant to the RST model.
Example: impact bag, glove under arm. etc...

Much appreciated.

Cheers.

]]> Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:02:05 +0000 http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6453&PID=55218#55218 Short Game Shots : Bunkers - need help!!! http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6444&PID=55217#55217 Author: rufdiggity
Subject: Bunkers - need help!!!
Posted: 03 July 2009 at 10:55am

Is that DVD separate to what we pay for the monthly fee?]]> Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:55:40 +0000 http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6444&PID=55217#55217 Rotary Swing Tour : RST Blinding Glimpse of the Obvious http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6450&PID=55216#55216 Author: rufdiggity
Subject: RST Blinding Glimpse of the Obvious
Posted: 03 July 2009 at 10:01am

Congrats on the success! I find it too that I become rigid and lose some distance when concentrating so much on the RST stuff. I need to take your ideas of staying relax and left the core muscles do the work, it's just hard when the club is in your hands and you feel like you should be using arms.]]> Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:01:25 +0000 http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6450&PID=55216#55216 Rotary Swing Tour : Weight Shift Part 3 - Back to the Left http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6217&PID=55215#55215 Author: chicky
Subject: Weight Shift Part 3 - Back to the Left
Posted: 03 July 2009 at 9:42am

just tried it and i can feel my glutes. the best feel comes when my hips are around 45 deg open and i am realy sitting back into my hip..is that what we are looking for?.it feels exactly the same as it does when i load up on the backswing (right glute)

edit..i am beginning to wonder if i have been looking for a stretch feel rather than 'activation'

Edited by chicky - Today at 12:20am]]> Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:42:06 +0000 http://www.oneplanegolfswing.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6217&PID=55215#55215