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Losing Spine Angle?

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Topic: Losing Spine Angle?


Posted By: Chuck Quinton
Subject: Losing Spine Angle?
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 2:41pm
It's interesting how many golfers I work with that complain they just can't seem to maintain their spine angle. As I have them do the body rotation drill a couple times, they see that they have no trouble maintaining their spine angle, but put a club in their hands and it all changes. Most of the time the arms releasing too early causes the body to lose the spine angle, but it can be caused by rotating the shoulders improperly on the downswing as well - but BOTH of these swing faults are generally caused by the same thing. Any one have any idea what the biggest cause of losing the spine angle is???

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Posted By: Bob34
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 2:45pm

Sliding the hips vs rotating them...?

-Bob

 



Posted By: Chuck Quinton
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 2:48pm
Come on Bob, you can do better than that. The answer is not obvious at first, but it should be.

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Posted By: Bob34
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 3:42pm

Hmmm... The only other obvious one I can think of is; over rotating on the backswing...? 

After cheating and looking at the members vault we also have;

Stopping your rotation on the downswing and not staying committed to the shot for fear of hitting it left...

-Bob

 



Posted By: nohiogolfer
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 3:47pm
Trying to keep head behind ball, causing tilt back?

or 

Standing up due to right elbow getting past hip, pulling out of shot thinking you'll hit way too fat?


Posted By: gwlee7
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 4:00pm
Please just tell us Chuck so that I don't have to committ suicide.  This my chief problem, coming up out of the shot.


Posted By: Chuck Quinton
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 4:04pm
So far, all the answers have all been technically correct, but of course, if the golf swing had everything to do with angles and positions, gwlee7 wouldn't be struggling with losing his spine angle because he intellectually knows all the answers listed here. Think harder...

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Posted By: gwlee7
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 4:26pm
Hurry guys, I have my noose out!!


Posted By: nohiogolfer
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 4:32pm
Think harder??   Think harder???   You want us to think harder??? 

I thought we're suppose to think less, like not at all!! 


Posted By: randini
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 4:37pm
 I lose my spine angle if I have bad thoughts...............

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Posted By: randini
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 4:39pm
which makes me slide..........lateral hips kill the shot...........even with the putter

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Posted By: Bob34
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 5:04pm

LOL gwlee7

Well if it's not about anything mechanical; postions, angles, etc..., it must be something mental. Not staying committed to the shot for fear of missing left is a mental issue and that wasn't it so I don't know. I'm not good at the mental stuff.  I don't put any effort into the mental game. After serving in the military, and then being a defense contractor for the past 20 years, spending a lot of time overseas to include Iraq and most of the rest of the middle east during time of war. I just don't feel very much pressure when playing golf. Sure, I have inner demons like anyone when something mechanical goes wrong that I don't know what it is or why but when my mechanics are even just OK, I can play good golf. Having said all of that, I don't play sanctioned competitive golf but if I didn't piss my pants when taking small arms fire while sitting backwards in a C-130 performing a combat landing, I think I'll be OK when I do start competing

I don't want to take anything away from Chuck's emphasis on the mental aspect of the game though, most of my buddies that I play with don't put playing golf in the proper perspective and I probably don't either but all I really care about at this stage of life as a golfer is that it's 95% fun and only 5% frustration.

Regards,

Bob

 



Posted By: Chuck Quinton
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 6:15pm

All of your answers have been "correct" so far. Fear of missing left is a good one when it comes to mental goofs, but the thing I was looking for here is TENSION. Tense muscles pull the physical structure (spine, joints, etc) out of alignment and absolutely wreck a golf swing. This tension can eminate from anywhere, from the hands to the feet, but either way it will do damage when the swing gets to the "point of no return." At that point, the chips are going to fall where they may and you have no ability to change it's course.

Ok, now for the bonus round, what is at the ROOT of this excessive bad tension - and a lot of bad golf in general for that matter? If anyone provides the one word answer I'm looking for, I'll give them an online lesson for FREE. Note I said "root", you have to dig very deep for this one, the answer is not on the surface but it is there. You'll have to do some soul searching for this one. I know many of you will be thinking "trust" or lack thereof, but that's not what I'm looking for.

-C



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Posted By: gwlee7
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 6:30pm

One word huh??  How about incompetence  ?

Actually, I'll try FEAR. 



Posted By: randini
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 6:42pm
doubt

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Posted By: Clubcaster
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 6:44pm
Pride?
Experience?
Responsibility?
Knowledge?
Instruction?
Control?
Desire?
Women?
Sobriety?



Posted By: flyfishin
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 6:48pm
An angry wife waiting at home all day with 3 small kids?


Posted By: Golf4Serenity
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 6:48pm
Trying to create SPEED to increase DISTANCE  - by HITTING (not swinging).......

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Posted By: flyfishin
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 6:56pm
Okay, here's my serious answer. You are thinking which creates tension. If you play golf by 'not thinking' as you've been mentioning lately, the tension should disappear.


Posted By: Bob34
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 6:59pm

Hey gwlee, I was going to say fear.   Fear is the root of all evil and breeds pressure and / or anger which breeds tension  Can we both go with fear or do I have to come up with something different?

-Bob

 

 



Posted By: Chuck Quinton
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 7:03pm
Now we're getting somewhere. Clubcaster got extremely close, practically saying the same thing with his shotgun approach. If you give the answer, it must come with an explanation of why. You're very close...

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Posted By: Clubcaster
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 7:07pm
Oooooh, Bob - you could be onto something.  Chuck did highlight the words root and free.  The root of all evil is actually money, is it not?  I don't know what it has to do with the golf swing, but I'm going with that.  Money.  Final answer.

Edit: okay that's not my final answer.  I just saw Chuck's response above.  Now I have to go back and see what I said earlier.


Posted By: Clubcaster
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 7:16pm
I'm not sure which of my one word answers is the one you are looking for but I do believe that the general idea is that as responsible adults we try to use knowledge to be in control of our swings.


Posted By: gwlee7
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 7:25pm
Bob, it doesnt' matter which of us uses fear as our answer.   Chuck keeps changing the rules.  He didn't say that we had to explain ourselves at first.  Now, that "we're getting somewhere", he says we have to explain why. 


Posted By: Chuck Quinton
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 7:28pm

LOL gw,

Didn't mean to change the rules on ya, but knowledge without wisdom isn't of much value. BTW, it's not fear because fear is nothing more than a byproduct of this.



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Posted By: Clubcaster
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 7:31pm
I hope that continuing to provide new answers doesn't cancel out previously correct answers, but I really want to win this contest bad.

Which brings me to my next answer.  Desire, or wanting to do well, creates tension.  Boy, could I use a massage right now.


Posted By: Chuck Quinton
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 7:35pm
Somebody is going to get it right, I know it, and therefore I will for a correct answer. This person will have to be pretty wise to give the answer and a brief explanation, but I know that he/she is here on the forums.

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Posted By: Bob34
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 7:46pm

OK, so we have we not only have to have gnosis but epignosis. Fear is a byproduct... hmmm... The antithesis of fear is confidence so it can't be that as fear would be a byproduct of a lack of confidence and Chuck said one word... Hey, maybe I'm doing it right now, "analysing".

Could it be analysis?

And the explanation starts with a cliche, "Parallysis by analysis". When one over analyses one particular piece, topic, or subject they often miss the point all together such as when I over analysed the takeaway drill or most everything else I do for that matter

Hopefully,

Bob

 



Posted By: 01ragtop
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 7:48pm
Expectations?

No matter how good or bad of a golfer we are, our expectations of how well we should do can get in our way.   When we expect a good shot, but hit a bad one all kinds of doubt can creep in.  Doubt causes any number of the things listed so far. 

Maybe I should have gone with "doubt"!

Or
Confidence,
Awareness?


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Posted By: nohiogolfer
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 7:53pm
Thought!  Tension comes from thinking too much about the swing, or thinking too much about failing.


Posted By: 01ragtop
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 7:55pm
Pride?

It leads to caring too much, and creates our expectations.  Why do care?  Because we want to do good.  Why?  Because we are filled with personal pride.

I hope this is it because I am really proud of this answer


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Posted By: Chuck Quinton
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 7:57pm
run with it ragtop... Where does pride come from?

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Posted By: Bob34
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 8:00pm

Pride comes from arrogance but these are all just thoughts. So now we're down to the obvious;

Thinking. If you don't think, you can't over analyse, you can't be prideful, etc...

-Bob

 



Posted By: Clubcaster
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 8:01pm
Ego!


Posted By: 01ragtop
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 8:01pm
Society breeds it into us, but I'm thinking this isn't Anthro class, or is it?

And... it is our society that requires the competitive nature we survive on. 



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Posted By: Chuck Quinton
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 8:05pm
Clubcaster pulls off the win at the buzzer if he can explain it!

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Posted By: 01ragtop
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 8:08pm

damnit I was gonna say that

The egomaniac test:

http://www.queendom.com/tests/minitests/fx/egomania.html - http://www.queendom.com/tests/minitests/fx/egomania.html

The deifinition of Egomaniac from Answers.com:  A conceited, self-centered person

I Thought we were supposed to stay centered in the golf swing

All bad jokes aside: 

EGO:  In psychoanalysis, the division of the psyche that is conscious, most immediately controls thought and behavior, and is most in touch with external reality.  (From Answers.com)



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Posted By: Bob34
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 8:15pm

Way to go Clubcaster!!! Hopefully Chuck will cure you of that alias once and for all

Regards,

Bob

 



Posted By: Clubcaster
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 8:18pm
Oh gawd, I hope I don't screw this up now.  I don't think my fragile self esteem could handle the humiliation....  But if I get it right, everyone will be so impressed....  I just need to bear down and concentrate....  Focus ClubCaster, focus!

Our egos make us want to do better.  The more we want to do better, the harder we try.  The harder we try, the more tense we get.

Gosh, I hope I didn't just sh@&# it!




Posted By: 01ragtop
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 8:28pm
Seeing how ego controls the thoughts and is most connected to reality, is it then possible to shut the ego down so that its connection to reality does not lead to negative thought?  The power of the mind is an amazing thing, but can it shut itself out?  Can't wait for Chuck's analysis!

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Posted By: nuke99
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 8:29pm
Mind if i try...

Consistently I am really afraid to miss the ball especially with  turning left. because this feeling is almost very odd at first, you feel like its thinning and you feel like its hitting left. Thus I will Yank my body to the and change my spine angle in order to try to hit them. Thus that thought alone would change the spine angle.i must trust the turn  and turn and give up that control of hitting the shots in order to get it, and be  fully aware of the symetrical body turn that controls everything and a real soft arms. I feel i had got the best shots that way.

Also, when  force the swing because of some ego, feeling that i need to hit further and purer , not relax and smooth.nothing should be adrupt. My error is that my hips would  be over active and the hips would either go closer to the ball or to the target changing the spine angle or my arms would tighten up. I must learn to swing within myself and not let ego get the better part of me. I must remember that i hit a zero effort   5 iron  3 days back and nearly holed in one. that swing was effortless and so smooth. Everything should stay real soft and let your core turn andddd turn...







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Posted By: flyfishin
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 8:45pm
Fear of failure. We have a fear of hitting the shot in the water, in the trees, in the bunker, everywhere but the correct spot. We are focused on the outcome of the shot, a poor outcome. The fear of failure produces tension.


Posted By: randini
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 8:49pm

 My answer is still "doubt"............but that is just me.

I play to scratch......but I hit my share of bad shots.......99% of the time it is because I am setting up to the ball "wondering" if I'm gonna pull off the shot......and that "doubt'' floods the body with tension and I usually lose sight of the objective (target) then I start to think of "angles" as I take the club away ect....ect......

thank goodness for a decent short game



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Posted By: nuke99
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 8:55pm
And also.

When i try to hit the next shot better than the last...I will force it ...and thus ...


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Posted By: Chuck Quinton
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 9:04pm

Close enough, Club, I'll give it to ya! I'll expound a bit more for you. Let's work with some examples. How about the infamous first tee jitters.

Standing on the first tee with everyone watching, why do we struggle to hit a simple golf shot that we've done a million times when no one was watching? Why? Our ego of course. We get tense because we want to hit a good shot in front of everyone to either avoid looking stupid (which we end up doing anyway ) or in order to try and impress. Both of these reasons are to protect or boost our ego. What if we had no ego to protect or boost? We wouldn't care about the results of the shot and if we don't care about the result, why would we get tense over a shot?

Egolessness is an ultimate pursuit in not just golf, but man does it have a significant impact on your game. Our ego is what makes us start worrying about our scorecard or start trembling over a three foot putt. Our ego is what makes us pull out a 7 iron instead of the 6, the driver instead of laying back with the 2 iron or try to hit the driver a little harder at the last second. The ego is one of the biggest impedences to effortless golf and it is responsible for a multitude of golfing sins from tension to lack of trust to to fear. Fear is nothing more than a conscious warning signal that our ego is in danger of being damaged.

Good job Club and everyone else!



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Posted By: Clubcaster
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 9:37pm
Woohoo!


Posted By: 01ragtop
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 9:58pm

congrats clubcaster!


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Posted By: flyfishin
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 10:28pm
Congratulations ClubCaster!


Posted By: gwlee7
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 11:02pm

So what you are saying then is if I don't care (about the outcome of a shot),  then I won't be tense; and if I am not tense, I will maintain my spine angle because I won't be flinching, jerking, steering, manipulating, swatting, pulling, pushing, lifting, casting, dipping, and generally messing up because there is no flow in the swing.

Case in point for me would be how easy and effortless I played nine holes the other day with two guys I didn't know that well.  Whenever I am in a "new" group of golfers, I concentrate on being fun to play with more than anything else.  I will just walk up to my ball, give it a good look, think about where I want it to go and hit it there.  I hit 7 of 7 fairways, 6 of nine greens and made two birdies, two bogeys (lipped out the par putts), and 5 pars.  The ball was always going in the general direction that I wanted it to and the 36 could have just as easily been 34.

Today I played with my regular group and it is big group that ends up being your team against all the other teams.  Here lately I have been trying too hard because of the "ego" thing of wanting to look good, not messing  up etc.  I know that it has getting me overly tense.  I would be willing to bet that if I make being fun to play with the primarly focus here too that my scores will get back to where they have been. Losing myself in the fun of the game and the companionship of the great group of people I play with would help me be less tense.

So Chuck, tension is the killer of spine angle then.  Correct?



Posted By: Chuck Quinton
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 11:11pm

gw,

tension is a killer of spine angle, yes. I would just caution you making fun be your primary focus, but that is too much to try and explain here. I'm writing my articles and they are coming. The things that I'm writing about are the exact same things that I use in my own game and the same things I work with my students on. Paul is working with the "shift" now and is playing the best golf of his life by his own account.



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Posted By: gwlee7
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 11:19pm
I guess what I meant by "being fun to play with" is that it takes the focus off feeling like the shot HAS to come off perfectly.  If the ball goes in the trees, well, it goes in the trees and I am going to hit it out of the trees without being upset.  I guess it 's more about "accepting" the actual outcomes of shots rather than "focusing" on the potential outcome. 


Posted By: Chuck Quinton
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 9:43am
Yeah gw, it is certainly better than being concerned with the outcome or getting upset, but it is what I call a "distracting technique" that takes your focus from the task at hand. Swing thoughts can be distracting techniques, reciting a yardage in your head over and over, etc. To play at your peak consistently your mind must be absolutely clear of everything outside the present moment.

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Posted By: Chuck Quinton
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 10:44am
Ok, so we understand that tension comes from our ego, yes? Our ego tries to inflict it's will to produce a desirable result that protects or boosts itself and in doing so, often provides undesirable results. You with me? So, if the ego is a major detriment to peak performance in golf, what state of mind do we need to be in to no longer struggle with the self consciousness of the ego?

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Posted By: randini
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 10:50am

 I for one.......have for some time now been trying yo play golf in a very "humble" state of mind.......

 that's probably not the word you are asking for



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Posted By: gwlee7
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 10:57am
Let's try a state of egolessness or "detatchment" where you let things happen instead of "making them happen".


Posted By: Chuck Quinton
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 12:28pm
detachment is very good... Keep going...

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Posted By: nohiogolfer
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 1:51pm
Gene SaraZEN and Walter Hagen knew the answer:  Alcohol!  A state of non-sobriety on the course will tame the ego.  

Medicated detachment....


Posted By: randini
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 2:38pm
 guys I play with call it "swing lube"

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Posted By: gwlee7
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 3:32pm

Grasssshopppperrr, you must free your mind of all impurity. It is the path to enlightenment that leads one to hit straight shots............



Posted By: 01ragtop
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 3:53pm

Alcohol relieves us of our inhibitions.

Like the T-shirt says, "Beer:  "Helping white boys dance since 1632!"

On the Dance floor we don't want to look stupid, so we are left with two options.

  1. Don't dance.  (who wants to stand around and just watch)

  2. remove the fear of looking stupid.  (this is where the alcohol comes in)

We have already learned that our fear is caused by our ego.  So it follows that our ego is the source of our inhibitions.  In the example above, if a person is a good dancer, he or she will not have inhiitions.  In golf too, the more confident you are in your ability, the fewer inhibitions you will have.

  I personally know no PGA tour golfers, but I have read that most are very egotistical people.  I think maybe their confidence has been  mistaken for ego.  I have also heard and read that the most important part of a pro's game is his or her confidence.  I am paraphrasing here, but Raymond Floyd once commented that he could miss ten three foot puts in a row, and still walk off the putting green believing he was a good putter.  How many of us could do that?  He went on to say that he would often lie to himself.  For instance he might have a hole that didn't set up well for his eye.  Instead of telling himself he hated the hole, he would lie to himself and say how much he liked the hole.

  I'm not sure if this is where Chuck is going--probably not--but the idea is to set up a reality (Fake or Real) in your mind that does not include your ego's fragile shortcomings.  Besides does anyone really think less of a person who can't break 100?  And if they do what does that say about that person?

Play Humble or be humbled!



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Posted By: Bob34
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 3:59pm
Originally posted by 01ragtop

Besides does anyone really think less of a person who can't break 100?  And if they do what does that say about that person?

What a great point!!!

-Bob

 



Posted By: randini
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 4:03pm
 depends on what they were drinkin!

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Posted By: Clubcaster
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 4:10pm
Hmmm....

How about abandonment?  Or acceptance?


Posted By: randini
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 4:11pm

 being serious.......I actually do know some golfers who "look down" on players of less calibur

most of em are guys with their name on their bag who play like they think they are on TV........

the kind I love to play against

old qoute........"pride goeth before destruction"



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Posted By: Chuck Quinton
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 4:31pm
ragtop, I would have to say that the techniques you have mentioned fall into the category I call "distracting techniques." The goal is to be unconscious of oneself. Anyone venture to guess what that means, how to apply it and what the benefits are?

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